TGP #53 Building A Real Estate Business With Jason Javer

GPA 53 | Real Estate Business

Building a business in real estate isn’t an easy task. Don’t expect to start out with $20 million in revenue. Take baby steps and just focus on building your team and your goals. Be like Jason Javer, the Managing Partner at Vista Homes. He started out small but worked his way to the top of the Charlotte single-family homes market. When COVID hit, he didn’t give up! He worked harder than ever because if you’re not first, you’re last. Join your host Aaron Civitarese as he talks to Jason about how he built his real estate business. From his work routine to his team management, discover the ins and outs of running a real estate business. Create your very own entrepreneurial journey today!

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Building A Real Estate Business With Jason Javer

In this episode, my guest is Jason Javer, Managing Partner of Vista Homes, coming in on the real estate tip. I’m excited to talk to you. How are you doing?

I’m doing well. Thanks for having me, Aaron. I’m excited to be here.

We’ve been getting to know each other a little bit before jumping on but if you don’t mind, tell us a little bit about yourself. Where are you at? What are you up to? Who’s Jason?

I live in Charlotte, North Carolina, in the United States. I have a real estate business here that we have. It’s myself and a business partner. We have eight employees. We’re doing around $15 to $20 million in revenue a year. What we focus on is building single-family homes and townhomes near the core of Center City. Uptown is what they call it here in Charlotte.

A lot of our buyers are like us, Millennials. Maybe dual-income, no kids potentially, a couple of young kids, a dog. Demographic is what we serve. I wanted to come on here and talk about my experiences in terms of growth, growing a business and managing people. It seemed like this show was an awesome opportunity for me to have a great conversation with you. As I mentioned, I appreciate you having me on. I think it will be a great conversation.

I’m excited to talk to you a little about a lot of stuff. It sounds like you’ve got your entrepreneurial chops quite early. You’re a young guy, you’re in your early 30s and you got this big ass business and you’re doing well.

I appreciate it.

How did that come about when you were young? You know a lot of guys were out doing a lot of different things. I know myself. I didn’t even start college until I was 23. How did it go for you? What were the early days like?

I think my biggest influence into entrepreneurship was my dad. He was an insurance agent and specialized with lumber companies and a small business owner. I got to see the flexibility that he had in owning his own business. That was like the biggest thing that I looked up to was flexibility. I’ve always been someone that, deep down, just wanted to be rewarded for my ability to do well. If I’m not doing well, then I don’t deserve those rewards. When I started out as an employee at companies, I’d do well the first six months to a year, then I’d feel like I could do more. They weren’t able to provide me with more challenges or I wasn’t able to excel and take that next step.

When I was working in Chicago before I moved to Charlotte, I was working for a private equity company. I looked at the two principals of the company and I was like, “They’re very smart. They’re great people they’ve taught me a lot,” but I felt like I had the base like I could take that next step but there wasn’t that path when it’s not your own business to jump and do. I think that was like a little bit of what was inside of me from a reward perspective of entrepreneurship and building my own thing and creating my own life. Also, I was able to see with my dad growing up.

You were doing private equity and stuff back then. How was the transition?

Spend time learning but spend even more time taking action.

That company invested in grocery-anchored shopping centers and commercial real estate. Those are larger deals than what I started doing in residential real estate. The transition was challenging though, because I moved down to Charlotte and had irrational confidence and decided that I’d be able to do this business and do residential real estate, which right after 2008, the recession was pretty popular at the time.

It seemed like things were off the bottoms of the market. In the beginning, it was a struggle. It was difficult. I wasn’t able to do it full-time as I imagined. I went and got a full-time job as a financial analyst for a consumer company down here and kept with my goal to eventually have my own business. I worked nights and weekends until I felt like I had the foundation and the ability to go full-time with it.

When you were in that transition because a lot of the audience, myself also, went through corporate and went through that whole thing then had this burning desire to do more, more fulfillment, be your own boss, live on your own terms and create something. Maybe for someone who’s reading, who’s like, “I’d love to do that shit but I’m scared.” The COVID moment we’re in now is interesting. I feel like having a job is riskier than being someone who’s out in creating versus being like our parents’ generation.

Back in the day, it was like, “You’re a business owner. That’s risky.” Now, I feel like if you have a job, it’s risky to me. What would you tell someone who’s like in their mind? Maybe they feel like an entrepreneur but they have a lot of fear. Maybe they have self-sabotage kicking in or self-doubt. How do they get over that and into the place of creation where they can do what they want to do?

I think there are a few key elements to that. The first thing is time. If you’re working a 9:00 to 5:00, that’s 40 hours a week. There’s plenty of other time to have passions to go after something and try to make it. If it’s your dream, like for me, it was my dream to have my own thing. I didn’t sit here when I was 24 years old and say, “I need the company to be $20 million in revenue.”

I only went step-by-step and kept trying to improve. When I worked the full-time job, I made sure I kept my expenses low so that anything that I was making, especially in real estate, was being reinvested. I made sure that I spent a lot of hours upon hours learning real estate, understanding what a successful deal would look like, what a successful company would look like.

I spent all that time learning, then I spent even more time taking action and failing and getting back up and keep trying and plugging away at it. The first deals we did, don’t look anything like the deals we’re doing now but we never would be able to be where we are now if not for those smaller deals and if not for the setbacks.

My advice would be to realize that you have time. Realize that it’s possible but also, you’re going to have to make sacrifices. That might be financial. It might be time and learning but you can do it. It’s hard. It’s hard because a lot of people want it and anything that people want is going to be challenging to go and get but it’s certainly possible.

Keyword right there, it’s certainly possible. Before we jump into a little bit more about what you’re doing now and everything, I see you have GC’s hat in the background there. Are you a big fan?

I followed some of Grant Cardone’s stuff. I think the 10X stuff that he talks about, I’m a fan of. That’s how I’ve tried to create my life where I try to make ten times the amount that I would need because there are those setbacks. You can’t predict something like COVID or anything that happens.

For me, my biggest privilege is running this business. I’m willing to sacrifice and do the things that are needed and live below and take that 10X approach. Whether it be the actions, the income versus expenses, it’s what I care the most about. It comes more naturally if you love it and care about it and it’s important to you. That’s what I learned from Grant Cardone.

GPA 53 | Real Estate Business
Real Estate Business: Your starting company doesn’t have to be $20 million in revenue. Just go step-by-step and keep trying to improve. Keep your expenses low so that anything you make can be reinvested.

GC is bad-ass. One of the guys that I work with closely he’s in all of his programs. He’s in his highest level of mentorship and stuff and lots of energy. That’s what I can say.

I can’t match that energy but I think I got the good points out of some of this stuff.

He’s on fire with the energy. I read his book, Sell or Be Sold. Ironically, he wrote that book back in the recession of ’08, ’09 during the housing crash and stuff, which ironically, for me, I was working in mortgage refinancing back then. I hated it but the supply was there. They needed people like us to crunch numbers and stack papers. I did make some money, whatever.

I read that book and I find it ironic because now, all sorts of crazy shit are going on with the economy. I’d love to ask you and I’m going to about what’s happening in the real estate economy now because I have no idea, but I’m curious to know. When I read that book, it was like, he could have written that for this moment now but he was talking about the recession back then. He’s selling Sell or Be Sold, get out there and take action. When everybody else is contracting, you need to expand into the market take over the market share. It’s called If You’re Not First, You’re Last.

I’ve listened to that audiobook.

That’s the one. The other books, I’m sure it’s awesome too. He’s basically saying, like, “Get out there and be first. If you’re not, you’re last.” In a moment like this, in COVID, in a recession, in a downturn, this is the moment to grab market share and go after it and be first. That book, he could have written that now and it’s so relevant. What do you think about that book?

I agree with you completely. It’s so relevant. It’s relevant at all times. Even when things are down, it’s even more relevant. In March, April, when there were a lot of unknowns with COVID, sales shut down. Everything was very slow. At that point, to what you mentioned like we could have pivoted two ways. We could have slowed down or we could have kept going and reinvesting. Luckily, because of the position that we were in, we were able to then start doubling down on marketing because we figured like once this thing bounces back.

There’s going to be a lot of buyers that, hopefully, have been on the sidelines in the spring, which is the hottest time to buy and sell that they’d come back in full force. We were very fortunate because, at that low point, we invested a lot of money in marketing. We made sure we had our ducks in a row. We made sure that we provided customers with the ability to see our product and understand what we were doing virtually.

Coming out of COVID, we had the best sales months in the history of our company. To your point of like, if you’re not first, you’re last. That was our mentality. It was like, “Now when things are tough, we have to double down. We have to be ready to invest and reinvest in and hone in on getting customers basically.”

This is a moment that’s bringing out the survival of the fittest type shit like in all. I’m always curious about people’s perspectives. What are some of the things you think separate a successful business from a business that it will make it or it doesn’t make it or it doesn’t grow? What do you think some of the separating factors are?

For me, I look at it and I want to do everything possible to limit the chance of failure. I want to do everything that I can possibly do every single day so that when these tough times come in, we’re able to withstand them because I think history tells us that there are going to be tough times like this. Maybe once a decade, maybe sooner, maybe longer. As we were getting started, we tried to dot our I’s and cross our T’s on everything. If we feel like there are seven important things that we need to do as a business, we’re focusing on all of them. We are making sure that we’re set up for not only the good times but for the bad times also.

Anything that people want is going to be challenging to get, but it’s certainly possible.

My business partner and I have always reinvested. We’ve always tried to diversify and keep cash on the sideline. Also, make sure your team and your culture are there, that you have the right people working, margins and profitability. I think what can separate successful versus not successful in times like this is, “Are you doing all the right things when times are good because the bad times are going to come and you have to be ready to weather those storms?”

It’s preparation. You said something that’s so needed to be said like, “Scream it to the guys so they can hear it in the back,” type thing. Bad times come. It’s cyclical. You can’t get away from it. The universe is always finding the center ground of polarity. You’re never going to have pure good times rain down on you 24/7. You got to be prepared. When the good times are good, it’s usually good for everybody thing. When the bad times, that’s when the solid businesses shine and that’s when they push through them because they’re prepared.

I don’t want to understate COVID and the impacts it’s had in industries. We’ve been very fortunate that we’ve been an industry that’s come out of this fairly strong so far. Who knows what the future holds. I don’t want to undermine the struggles that some industries have been hit in ways that I never even would predict in my own business. Imagine being a restaurant and having to go to $0 of revenue. No one forecasted that. That’s hard.

My heart goes out to those businesses. For me, it’s another eye-opening, look-around thing of like, “I got to prepare myself now and think about what happens when my business goes to $0 in revenue for a full year. How do I keep the lights on? How do I provide for my family? How do I provide for my team and my team’s family?” That’s what it’s about for me. It’s more about the business and growing it and being the best version of ourselves so that we can weather those storms.

It’s the best version of yourself in business and personally. Tell me a bit about your personal life if you would, like routines, health, wealth, love, happiness and all of those things. What’s going on there?

I’m married. I got a puppy. That’s been an awesome experience. My wife works for Bank of America. She has a good corporate job. We live in the neighborhoods that I do some work in. On a personal level of myself, I’m probably like a pretty regimented person. I probably get that from my mom and seeing how disciplined. Every morning you wake up and hear the treadmill go and it’s the 6:00 AM thing. I’ve tried to incorporate that in my life. Now, in COVID too. I’ve been waking up like an hour earlier, which has made a huge difference. I’ll wake up at 6:00 and try to exercise in the morning and get my day started the right way.

I try to get a lot of my emails and a lot of my to-do stuff done early in the day so that I can be an entrepreneur throughout the day and help my team and help plug the holes. Do the things that fire drills that come up so that I’m not like too bogged down throughout the day. That’s the day and the strategy that works well for me. To your point, it’s about finding your balance and what works for you but that’s like the routine and the things that have worked well for me.

I’m similar. I find getting up early, exercising and going for a run a game-changer. The days I don’t do it, like literally now, is a perfect example. I worked until about 2:00. I had some late calls. I’m in Europe, so I’m talking to the States and had some late calls. I went to bed at 2:00-2:30. I didn’t get up until I don’t know what time my wife finally dragged me out of bed, 9:00 or something and it’s not normal for us. I didn’t run. I didn’t meditate. I didn’t journal. I hopped on. I typically do it in the morning and I feel off. My whole day tilted in strangely purely because I missed my morning routine.

Meditation is something that I want to learn more about and do more but I think that, for me, the growth on the personal side is about trying to improve continually and to track where I’m at with personal, business and financial goals. Continue to track it and to see the progress. I’m someone that’s motivated by seeing progress and tracking things. I’m a numbers guy too. Seeing the numbers and the progress become helpful for me in terms of hitting goals and continuing to move forward.

They say that progress equals happiness at the end of the day. That whole saying is, “It’s not the destination. It’s the journey,” it’s true. It’s not the destination. It’s the journey. If you’re tracking the journey and you see yourself making progress, you’re proud of yourself for having the discipline to make that progress. You can see incremental changes in yourself, in your business and your numbers and stuff. That’s what makes you happy.

That, I think, has been one of the biggest things that I’ve learned as an entrepreneur and I’m always trying to work on too, is appreciating the journey and not thinking there’s some destination. In real estate, there could be some deals that are big payouts and big deals. Especially starting out, I was like, “If I get this one deal that I make X number of dollars, all my issues are going to go away.” It turns out that’s not how the world works. That’s not how business works. What I’m trying to do is continue to put myself in a place where I’m enjoying the journey.

GPA 53 | Real Estate Business
Real Estate Business: As a business owner, do your to-do things early in the day so that you can help your team throughout the day. Help your team plug in all the holes and do the fire drills without being too bogged down.

That’s what’s important to me more than making X amount of dollars and spending it on cars or shoes or whatever people spend their money on. For me, it’s like, “How do I continue to reinvest in myself and in the business so that every day I’m enjoying the journey a little bit more and I have a little bit less stress?” Those are the things that motivate me.

Me too, 100%. That begs the question like, what does success mean to you? What’s your definition of it?

Success for me is it’s a matter of one’s perspective. It’s what makes you happy, doing interviews with people and interviewing other entrepreneurs as well. It’s cool to see that there are some core principles that everyone has in common. There’s like the personal side and some people love to spend money or have a nice boat or cars and that’s what motivates them.

I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with that but it’s important that we all recognize that we’re on our own journey. It’s not about what Aaron has or what someone else has. It’s about how do I create my life? How do I engineer my life to hit my goals? What’s important to me with the understanding that there are going to be trade-offs?

For success, it doesn’t matter how much money you’re making. It’s about, “Are you happy? What’s the journey like? Have you created your life to be your life and not worried about what other people thought throughout the journey?” I’m always trying to work on that and always trying to reinvest in my mindset. That’s the number one most important thing that people can do to be happy.

I could agree. The more personal development you do, the more present you are in the moment, the more grateful you can be about the past and the decisions. Even if they were poor decisions, be grateful that they happened for the lesson. You can remove the emotional attachment to it and see it as wisdom if you can be truly satisfied with where you are now, like I have a warm cup of tea my wife gave me. I’m very satisfied with that. I’m talking to you and we are having a great conversation. I’m very satisfied with that. I have an awesome computer in front of me I can talk on. It’s made out of oil and plastic. How does that work? I don’t know. It’s very satisfying. I’m superabundant now.

Also, at the same time, being excited and motivated for what’s to come. Those three events, for me, when I put that sequence together, that’s when my life became very happy and joyful. I don’t know if you’re like me this way but a lot of people live in the past or the future and not at the moment. The past is regret, depression, anger and holding yourself in the face for stuff. The future is worry and anxiety, dress but those don’t even exist.

If you can separate from that and be here, then be happy that it did happen and you learn. Be excited for what’s about to come and you’re not sure what it is but the journey is there and it’s going to be awesome, that’s happiness. That’s how I define it at least. That’s how I see it. I think we’re saying similar things.

For me, I was always someone that dealt with high anxiety, especially when I made the jump from a full-time job to no steady income. I completely agree with everything you’re saying, but for me, I needed to have a little bit of financial security to get that anxiety and worry away. I knew for me that was important, so I made sure that I sacrificed and created those things so that I didn’t get stressed when we got bad news about an opportunity or someone’s unhappy and it’s going to cost $1,000 or $10,000.

For me, it’s like, “How do I also create a business and a lifestyle to make sure that I’m always in that present state that you talk about?” Because for me, it didn’t come naturally. It’s something I had to work on over a lot of years to get to that state. I’d say if you can get there to get there but think about how what it may take for you to get there. I think it is an okay thing also. If you’re improving and working toward it and understanding that your decisions can shape your happiness and get you to that state that you’re talking about.

It’s a ton of inner work. It’s a ton of thinking. It’s a lot of self-reflection and this stuff. It’s a lot of chatting with coaches, mentors, partners and having conversations like we’re having now. Two dudes that have never met each other, connecting, talking about that exact same thing and realizing like, “It’s the same.” That’s one of the things I love about chatting with guys like yourself on the show is because it verifies when I’m onto something. I’m like, “I think I’m onto something here.” The success strategy formula thing.

Make sure your company is set up for not just the good times but the bad times also.

I’ll say it and the guy’s like, “I think the same thing. I do this and this and this.” I’m like, “It’s the same with a small tweak. I like that.” You can take pieces and chunks and stuff and you can build your own reality that way but it’s a lot of work. It’s active. You can’t be passively accepting information and from nowhere. You have to go out and get it and reform it for yourself. Implement it and work on it and track it as you said.

We’re in awesome times from an information standpoint. You can make your framework, the things that you’re talking about. In the past, you’d watch TV and you’d see superstars buying BMWs and Mercedes and all these fancy things. Now, the information is out there. You can create that mindset. There are people like us that are talking about it and many others now. Hopefully, people will listen to us talk and they’ll have a chance to reflect.

When I was getting started, I listened to a bunch of Gary Vaynerchuk, who I’m sure a lot of people know about and that’s a lot of his message also. As I was able to listen to him, it got me into more of a gratitude-type place in my life. It’s awesome that we’re on Zoom. We’re across the world talking to each other with this awesome message. Hopefully, there are people out there that are reading and we’ll be touched by it. It’ll make their day better and their decisions better and ultimately lead to more happiness.

Gary Vee is awesome too. A lot of Gary Vee’s messages are badass.

He’s been super helpful to me.

He doesn’t hold back.

No, and I can share his New York Jets misery, too, with the football team. We have that going for us as well.

Something that’s interesting that he talks about with the Jets, he’s always saying, “I want to buy the Jets. I’m going to buy the Jets.” People are like, “You’re already a millionaire. Why are you grinding so hard?” He’s like, “I want to fucking buy the Jets.” It’s in dollars to buy the Jets. I found it interesting. One of his gazillion pieces of content, he puts out more content than anybody, which is awesome. His content formula is badass.

His omnipresence is ridiculous, but he talked about the worst day of his life is going to be the day he buys the Jets because the goal that he’s been chasing his entire life is now obtained. Now it’s like, “What’s next?” He’ll find something. He’ll do something. He’s awesome. It’s an interesting thing to say and to think about. The big goal, you accomplish it, then now what?

It goes back to the journey. That’s where I learned and felt a lot from him. He loves the journey. He loves the road. He’s trying more to accept the road and the path and the day-to-day to get there. To your point, it is pretty funny. Hopefully, if he gets in there, maybe he could turn the team around because it may take that long for this team to turn around at this point. They’re bad. They are in a bad place now. It’s ugly.

Maybe it’ll be cheaper for Gary to buy them.

GPA 53 | Real Estate Business
Real Estate Business: If things aren’t going well or you get bad news, it’s important that you exude confidence and the right atmosphere and how you’re feeling. You can’t let your negative feelings rub off on the team and the culture and what’s going on.

If they keep this way, they might be.

They might be giving it away. Talk to me a little bit about Vista Homes. What do you folks do?

As I mentioned, we do around $15 to $20 million in revenue a year. We mainly build new construction, single-family homes and townhomes, all within a few miles of Center City, Uptown Charlotte. A lot of it is for Millennials, people that want to live near some transportation to Uptown and live near the bars and the restaurants.

Charlotte’s been a booming city that has seen a lot of growth from the banking industry and also people from the Northeast and Midwest that are moving down here. Also, this generation wants to be near bars and restaurants. Not like other generations that have flocked to like the suburbs. There’s land and opportunity close to town where people want to live.

We try to focus on opportunities to add density. We specialize in a project at being anywhere from 2 to 15 units. We’re in this mid-level niche in the market where we’re larger than a mom and pop builder that might do five homes a year but we’re smaller than a national, regional builder that would not do a 10 to 15-unit project. With that and with our branding, I feel like we’re a market leader in this space and we’re continuing to refine our craft and provide our product to our customers.

That’s cool. You have a team there. Talk to me a bit about team management. Managing people is a skill in itself and it’s something that’s completely undervalued.

How difficult it is or how important it is.

How hard it is to manage people. What’s up with you folks? How do you go about managing your teams?

It was a big adjustment for me because starting out, it was my business partner and me. Over time, we’ve grown to a team of eight employees besides myself and my business partner. I think that the leadership style is super important. The way I look at it is like I have a great team, great people. Now, it’s my chance to put them in the right position to succeed. If there are issues and things, don’t go right. Ultimately, I feel like it’s my fault. There’s something I could have done better. I could have put my team in a better situation to succeed.

On the flip side, I think that when things go well, they deserve the credit for executing what that plan is. My leadership style with the team is to be there for them and to understand when a mistake happens, how do I put them, like I mentioned, in a better place to succeed. Another important piece is culture. That’s something that I’ve had to learn to spend more time on and to invest more in because it’s easy when you’re starting out to be buried in your tasks.

If things aren’t going well or you get bad news, it’s important that you exude confidence and the right atmosphere and how you’re feeling. You can’t let your negative feelings rub off on the team and the culture and what’s going on. I’ve learned as someone that gets anxious to try to make sure that I’m being a good leader in that regard as well. With COVID, too, investing in culture has been a little bit more challenging.

Success is about what makes you happy, to create your life to be your life and not someone else’s.

It’s hard to get everyone together in COVID-safe environments. We’re trying to do little things where we meet at local parks and catch up and do things like that. I think culture and managing people is like my happiness formula. It’s an always improving fam. We’re always investing more. We can always do better at it but we’re doing good but we can always do better.

Always and that’s the journey. It never ends. It’s cool that you’re going out and bonding things out of the parks and stuff because the vibe needs to be strong. The bond needs to be there between the teammates but maybe not everyone can work in the same offices at the moment. Is that what you’re saying?

Yes, we implemented something that we were pretty excited about for 2020. Each employee was going to have a month that they were going to be able to plan a team event sponsored by the company. Everyone would have the ability to do something that they enjoy and have the team do it. That program lasted like two months because once COVID happened, it was hard to do those things. Those are some of the things we’ll get back to once the dust settles. In the meantime, we need to try to get together and do some creative things but we’re keeping everybody safe.

In your journey, over the years of building a business, kicking ass and taking names, what transformation has happened to you? Maybe you or maybe your family or something that you’ve maybe noticed in yourself that you maybe didn’t expect.

Something that I didn’t expect that I’m very proud of is my level of anxiety is a lot lower year over year. It always improves. I think that when I get negative things at work or there’s an issue, I feel like I don’t get that pit in my stomach. That stress that I’m dwelling on and can’t sleep at night thing, I feel like I’ve sacrificed to be able to be happier.

By being happier, I have better relationships with the people that are around me because I’m not sitting there dwelling about this little issue or that little issue or thinking worst case. It’s like, “I’ve created something where I’m happy and I’m in my own element. I know that I’m going to continue to improve on that and make that even better.”

I love what you’re doing.

I appreciate it.

Real estate is cool. Obviously, it’s real estate. Everyone’s like, “Real estate.” Come on, we all live in places and go inside buildings all day. I’m in an apartment building now in Rome. Congrats on your success. You’ve got a lot of awesome stuff ahead of you.

I appreciate it.

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What long-term plans do you have for your business?

I think like along the similar message. I’m not someone that’s saying like, “We need to be $100 million dollars or I need to go buy a yacht or buy the New York Jets.” I want everything to feel under control, like where the best version of ourselves. If a downturn were to happen, we’d be ready for it or continues or the negative shock. I wanted to create like that best team, the best company possible. I want Vista to be a special place to work. Also, a special place for people to be a part of. I want people not to feel the same dead-end feeling that I had in my corporate experience.

I want people to feel like when Vista wins, the team wins, like sports. I grew up playing sports and loved sports. I want people to have that same connection to the company as well. Those are the real goals that I’m working on every day, six months, two years or five years. If hitting that goal means that we’re only doing $15 to $20 million a year and we never even grow from here, I’m going to be perfectly happy and create a life of happiness. If the company is ready to go and grow, then even better because growth will allow my team to have even more opportunities to grow themselves and to have more success. For me, that’s all I’m focused on now. It’s taking it day by day by striving toward those goals.

For the audience out there who want to check you, folks out, see what you’re up to, where can they find you?

You can find my business Vista Homes. We have a website VistaHomesCLT.com. You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram. I also started a podcast here called the Charlotte Entrepreneur Podcast, where we interview local entrepreneurs in Charlotte and a similar message to what we talked about here. We want to provide that message to people. Also, hopefully, maybe take some of the experiences that I’ve had in growing a business and help people along their journey as well over time.

It’s been cool. It’s been an exciting experience to start a podcast. It fits well with the growth stuff that we talked about here in terms of getting outside your comfort zone and working on something. The first interview wasn’t as good as the second. Hopefully, the fifth is better than the second. It’s been a cool journey for sure.

Podcasting’s awesome. It’s fun to chat with people and everything. You’re going to love that journey.

Thank you. I appreciate it. It’s been great. There are nervous times and you feel uncomfortable. Even conversations like this. I feel like I’m leaving this conversation with more energy too, almost like how you talked about exercise and meditation. I feel like having these conversations brings me happiness and energy that I’ll take throughout the rest of my day as well. I appreciate you having me on and having a chance to chat.

I get tons of energy from these. I look forward to it. Doing these interviews and these chats is amazing. Thanks so much for coming to the show. I appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.

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About Jason Javer

GPA 53 | Real Estate BusinessA New York native, Jason Javer graduated from the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan with a degree in finance. After working for a private equity company that invested in real estate in Chicago, Jason felt he had the foundation needed for success in real estate investment and development. Additionally, his experience as a financial analyst allowed him to take the leap into real estate entrepreneurship 6 years ago. As a member of the thriving Charlotte community, Jason enjoys his time at the office and out on the golf course with friends. Vista Homes is currently designing Jason and his fiancé Steph’s new home, which will be built in the Sedgefield area.